Should We Thank Wisconsin?
First posted on Inside The Shoe
Something came to my mind earlier today. Along with the fact that some of Ohio State's best players are going to be suspended for 5 games, and maybe the Sugar Bowl (depending on what Tressel decides), maybe Buckeye fans should be thanking, yes thanking, Wisconsin. The tatgate has hit OSU hard, and hit the legacy of Terrelle Pryor even harder. Ohio State plays in the Sugar Bowl on January 4th, but what would have happened if they were playing on the 10th, for the National Championship? The NCAA and Ohio State would be in a pickle. Say Auburn was our opponent, would the NCAA still suspend these Buckeyes after letting Cameron Newton go free with money in his pocket, simply because he "didn't know"?
If they did, maybe it's time to be gracious we aren't in a position to win a National Title this year. If we had to stick the ball into Bauserman's or Guiton's hands without our starting left tackle, without a starting wide receiver, and without the leading rusher, could they really pull out a win? The defense might be fine, other than the mind game they would be playing while trying to tackle the best player in college football in Cam Newton. The mind game would overtake their minds simply because they have no offense backing them up. Who knows, maybe they would take that into a good way, maybe they like taking the load on their shoulders, but really, you can't win with just a defense. You can come close, don't get me wrong, but you have to have some sort of an offense.
This being said, what about the TatFive? Pryor, Posey, Herron, Adams, and Thomas would be standing on the sidelines with hecklers behind them and an NFL future seeming inevitable all while their teammates and good friends for the past 2-3 years are on the field trying to overcome what they've done and churn out a desperate victory. If we lost, that would move the Buckeyes to 0-10 against the SEC and another Buckeye debacle in the National Championship. Sure, some media would stick up for the Buckeyes saying their best players were sitting down, but over at Arkansas Expats, they're already viewing this as an excuse in case we lose the Sugar Bowl.
Who's to say that the rest of the country won't see that, and not just in the Sugar Bowl, but if we hadn't lost to Wisconsin, in theNational Championship. Tressel would be hit hard, moving to 5-5 in bowl games, and 4-4 mark in BCS games, and don't forget 1-3 in Championship games.
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I can only hope that somehow, some way, Tressel can pull out a win in New Orleans. Last time he was there he had all the tools, but LSU dismantled the OSU offense with all the starters. Arkansas's defense isn't as good, but if Tressel decides to sit his Tat Five, then it doesn't matter what kind of defense you have, you're probably going to have a successful defensive game facing a back up QB. I would sit Pryor anyway, but at the same time, can we win without him?
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Interesting post.
We, fans of the Buckeyes and the Big Ten, should certainly thank Wisconsin for all their preparation and, hopefully, their ability to play to their potential against TCU. But, I never want to thank a team for beating us. There is also the thought that if we were undefeated, we’d get left out of the MNC to play in the Rose Bowl while the current match up continues to take place. I’d like to think a hindered Buckeye squad could beat TCU, mid-major fans just began to hate me, but I guess we’ll have a better idea about that after this year’s Rose Bowl is played…also to the mid-major fans, I think I’d be wrong; don’t hate.
I liked your post. I have to believe If we were playing in the MNC there is no chance the “Tatfive” would be left out of the game. I also think Tressel will not decide to sit anyone for the Sugar Bowl. I still am extremely anxious for this game and feel like I can’t be productive in anything until I have read every sort of commentary about the game more then 6 or 8 times.
I will repost what I said on Black Shoe Diaries cause I hold grudges and “can’t get over it*.” I think that’s synonymous with being born and raised in Cleveland.
I hate him right now. I should have listened to my father who, after the signing day he had, spoke of how he has a sneaking feeling Pryor brings more negativity to the school than anyone thinks. I should have not listened to Mack Brown who stated he would win one, maybe two, MNCs.
*it is defined as any let down sports related
There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you.
- Woody Hayes
by Culp's Freaking Hill on Dec 27, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions
In the past three seasons, Ohio State has won three Big Ten championships, will play in three BCS games, and had one of the top twenty offenses in college football in the latest season. All of these accomplishments have been made with the help of Terrelle Pryor. I understand the anger being directed towards him right now, but to retroactively downgrade his success is nothing more than an emotional overreaction.
I'm not angry toward him
I was giving a scenario that the Tat Five put him into. I don’t think it’s fair to Tressel or the program because of the mistakes made by kids getting out of college. This is the point of the post.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Dec 27, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Dec 27, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
These records might move Tressel’s job into danger.
No. And it’s foolish to even suggest it.
by Tyler T. on Dec 27, 2010 6:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I never said fired
I’m simply saying that instead of safe mode, he may move into the “yellow” area. Who knows, it’s just speculation.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Dec 27, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
And it was “speculation” that he was retiring after the Sugar Bowl, according to that Chicago Now report. Speculation doesn’t mean you can say whatever you want and not have it be criticized.
by Tyler T. on Dec 27, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey I'm pro-Tressel
There’s no need to get hostile. You were giving criticism, and I’m just responding to it.
Tressel is the greatest (if not, very close) that OSU has ever had. I don’t want him to leave ever, I was just saying that the fans that called for TP to move to WR and for Tress to be fired after the loss to USC in 2009 are going to have a serious problem with another loss to an SEC school.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Dec 27, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
You are confusing criticism with hostility.
And those fans are going to complain regardless of what happens in the Sugar Bowl, or in any other bowl game. No one cares what those fans think. They aren’t the ones with power.
by Tyler T. on Dec 27, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No one cares what those fans think. They aren’t the ones with power.
True
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Dec 27, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions

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