Ohio State Press Conference Live Thread- Ohio State suspends Tressel for Two Games
by Tyler T. on Mar 8, 2011 6:37 PM EST
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PrintUpdate: Ohio State has suspended Jim Tressel for two games next season, required a public reprimand, fined him $250,000, and required attendance for a compliance seminar at some point in the future.
Jim Tressel's Official Statement: "I am sorry and disappointed this happened. At the time the situation occurred, I thought I was doing the right thing. I understand my responsibility to represent Ohio State and the game of football. I apologize to any and all of the people I have let down. I will grow from this experience."
H/T to Simmsimms
Link to video of Jim Tressel's press conference.
If you need to catch-up on the saga, links to the three updates and commentary we've done so far are below.
Terrelle Pryor Responds to Allegations? Maybe Not.
Links to the Live Streams
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com./
http://www.bigtennetwork.com/subindex/video/live-news
Nothing positive is ever going to come out of a press conference like this, but there are varying degrees of negatives that can result from this situation. Even if Coach Tressel is guilty of not reporting the original tip to his superiors, there are plenty of possible mitigating factors and circumstances that explain why the tip was not thoroughly investigated back in April. The media, as they are apt to do, have already latched onto the worst possible scenario, but it is highly doubtful that Jim Tressel would ever be fired for this issue.
All of the guessing and reporting of anonymous sources has been done, and it's now time to watch the press conference and get Ohio State's explanation of the report.
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For what it’s worth, some friends I have in athletics & compliance around the country tell me they don’t think is is nearly the big issue it’s being reported to be for a few reasons:
1) We don’t know the level of detail Tressel knew about the allegations, and
2) This is not anything more than a minor secondary infraction if he did know anything tangible, and
3) Ohio State still self-reported the allegations prior to the NCAA ever learning of them, and
4) Tressel never needed to hide anything from investigators
So while it’s blowing up as a story, these folks, with no affiliation to Ohio State, feel it’s much ado about nothing.
I really hope you’re correct, Kyle, but 10TV is reporting that he will be suspended two games next season.
And I’m fairly certain that will be the case. He still violated his contract and, possibly, committed secondary infractions for not reporting. So I imagine he’ll be suspended a few games by the university, fined and Ohio State might receive some minor probationary things.
All I mean is that if this is all that is being alleged, it won’t be armageddon for the OSU football program.
It appears that Yahoo did not break the story, but were informed by someone inside the NCAA. Ohio State was self-investigating the issue and had compiled a report on it before the news broke yesterday. Ohio State will release the report tonight, according to Joe Schad.
Awesome.
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
Ohio State discovered the issues. Yahoo did not break the story of Tressel’s failure to comply, but rather uncovered the investigation.
Tressel: "I am sorry and disappointed this happened. At the time the situation occurred, I thought I was doing the right thing. I understand my responsibility to represent Ohio State and the game of football. I apologize to any and all of the people I have let down. I will grow from this experience." Full video at 7
Ohio State’s official facebook page, 9 minutes ago
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
WCMH Columbus's NBC hasn't said anything about suspensions.
Where did we hear that?
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
Not at all surprisingly, Yahoo! Sports blew this whole thing out of proportion in order to get clicks.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Making claims of potential firings, vacating wins, bowl victories, an entire season.
A two game suspension is nothing really, we’ll win those games and move on. This isn’t bold red letter “BREAKING front page NEWS!” That’s Yahoo! Sports being Yahoo! Sports.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
All the story did was mention what the NCAA could potentially do based on the violations. Those possibilities still exist.
Thatt conjecture was not the focus of the story. The focus was facts the university has confirmed.
Because YS was going for the “sensational” headline. Blurting out end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it shit would constitute “blowing out of proportion”.
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
Here is Yahoo’s “sensation” headline, as you put it:
“Tressel knew of gear scheme last April”
That is a fact. Nothing sensational
No, nothing at all.
Glad to see you joined SB nation today. Lurk much?
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
Thanks for the welcome! Been an 11W reader for years but just stumbled upon ATO today. Glad we agree about the headline.
I just think some folks are confusing today’s local speculation with what was actually in the article.
Well, LIH, or can I call you “Ricky”?, I think that you’ve stumbled upon a very good site. I enjoy the quality of articles here, and look forward to seeing you here.
You are probably correct about the confusion/speculation comment; I’m sure that I was.
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
So there is a two game suspension because he made a very rare bad decision for someone of his character.
That’s it. Time to move forward, we’re winning those games regardless anyhow.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
We still can face NCAA sanctions.
To be fair, it seems like he didn’t know which players were selling the stuff when he was first informed, so idk how he would’ve held the players out of games if he didn’t know who the offending players were.
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
Not really
From what I tell from the press conference I listened to, coach Tress was told to keep the email from the US AG private.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
I haven’t read the correspondence…but I was listening to the radio and Coach Tress said that he was told by the US AG not to reveal the content about the emails.
Also the emails were about some drug trafficking investigation.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
No. He said the attorney who emailed him made reference to the fact there was an on-going federal investigation. He made reference to confidentiality being talked about by the lawyer, but not that he was instructed not to pass the information along.
Jim Tressel explaining that the DEA contacted him in the Spring, and he did not report the emails because it was a Federal Investigation and confidentiality was requested by the Attorney who contacted him.
.. and cooperating with Federal Attorneys is bad, how?
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
All that crap about firings and vacating wins, bowl victories, an entire season, was all bunch of crap. Typical blowing smoke by Yahoo! Sports.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Tressel says he should have gone to the top legal representative in Ohio State’s system for advice on how to handle a criminal investigation earlier.
Did the thought of dismissal ever cross your mind in this case?
Gee: “No, are you kidding?”
by Tyler T. on Mar 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
All and all that went about as bad as could have been expected.
The allegations were true, the coach is suspended and the program has a black eye. I’m hoping that the NCAA doesn’t find enough to vacate wins, but I’m prepared for the worst.
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
All and all that went about as bad as could have been expected.
The allegations were true, the coach is suspended and the program has a black eye. I’m hoping that the NCAA doesn’t find enough to vacate wins, but I’m prepared for the worst.
There are some inconsistencies that bug me, and I’m not sure all the motives were totally above board for Tressel, but I came away thinking this wasn’t as big a deal as I expected going in.
But the US AG office told coach Tress to keep it private. Feds>>> NCAA.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
Incorrect.
If the attorney general’s office instructed Tressel not to disclose information you can bet your sweet butt there would be no 250K fine, 2-game suspension, etc. Tressel admitted today that he should have contacted tOSU’s lawyers back in April
" Tressel admitted today that he should have contacted tOSU’s lawyers back in April"
No doubt about that, but id the investigation was that much of a BFD, I find it hard to believe that attorney in question did not contact OSU leagal-beagles.
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
He made a bad call by not seeking the advice of Ohio State’s legal counsel. It’d be his first bad decision of the kind in about 10 years of coaching this team. It’s not like he’s consistently caught cheating. He’s one the classiest coaches in college football, he absolutely deserves the benefit of the doubt.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I agree about the ‘bad call’. Oh well, we move on.
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
The NCAA won’t vacate wins. Ohio State is self-reporting this in order to avoid an investigation that could result in vacated wins.
It’s kinda hard to come clean in April 2010, when he was told by the US AG office to keep it private because of the ongoing drug trafficking investigation by the Feds involving two current Buckeye football players.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
He was under the impression that the the Feds wanted him to keep it confidential. Look at his track record, he wouldn’t do this just to be a cheating jerk off. Those kind of people make it a patter of behavior, such is not at all the case with Tressel.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I know that the feds told him to be quiet, but that doesn't mean it still isn't a violation. He was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Hopefully the NCAA recognizes this in their investigation.
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
Didn't he infer that from them? Wasn't that the entire point of his defense tonight?
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
The attorney representing the federal investigators did, however.
So if the attorney representing the federal investigators told Tress to keep it quiet, doesn’t that mean that that attorney is working for the Feds therefore he/she is a de facto agent of the government? and therefore if the attorney told Tress to keep it quiet, it’s basically coming from the US Govt?
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
It’s unclear how explicit the directive was. If the attorney outright instructed Coach Tressel to not share the information, then it’s also not likely he would be in trouble with Ohio State or the NCAA. But if it was an inference on Tressel’s part that he should not share the information, then it was a mistaken one.
Was threre any directive at all? And even if an attorney had instructed him to keep quiet, that would in no way impact Tress’ ability to consult the school legal counsel.
A recent tweet from Matt McCoy:
“After reading the e-mails a couple times, I’m just not buying the ‘safety of the players’ issue. 1st e-mail is all about NCAA violations”
Pardon my ignorance but who is Matt McCoy?
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
But if the players were ineligible and we knew about it, can't we get screwed?
Isn’t that the crux of the Auburn situation (two separate cases no doubt, but the point is that both knowingly played ineligible players, which is a vacatable offense)
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
I’m glad Tress isn’t getting fired. On the sports radio today, one of the radio guys said that if Tress was indeed fired, Coach Hayock (sp?) would take over for a year under an interim tag and in 2012, Urban Meyer would be hired as the HC at OSU <——Do not want that!
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
That was never at any time a realistic possibility ever. Yahoo! Sports reported that kind of crap so they could get more traffic to their website. “Legit journalists” my ass.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I understand the desire to kill the messenger, but nothing about Yahoo’s article was sensational or over-blown. You have to go about 12 paragraphs down before you get to the possible ramifications of violations.
When someone reads a report like that the natural question is: “I wonder what could happen to Coach Tress.” Yahool simply mentioned the options.
Yeah, none of this is sensational or overblown either.
You’re kidding yourself.
It has nothing to do with “killing the messenger,” it’s more about calling out the outlet for what they are. They have a very notable bias against Ohio State and are entirely willing to sensationalize in order to get more traffic.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Lol, how is a Dr. Saturday blog post from this morning relevant?
That’s like saying a front page article in the Columbus Dispatch is overblown because of a political cartoon on the editorial page.
Equating a Yahoo! blog to a political cartoon is about the only thing we’ll probably ever agree on.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Matt Hinton is an excellent blogger and very intelligent. He gave me quite a bit of advice when we began Along the Olentangy a few months ago, and I respect his analysis immensely. I don’t know the quality of all of Yahoo’s other blogs— Shutdown Corner is not highly respected—- but Hinton has as good of a name in blogging as you’ll ever find.
I like Dr. Saturday, but his job is different than the job of the the guys who wrote the Tressel piece. Connecting the two is a mistake, was my only point.
Puck Daddy is also a great read, IMO, if you like the NHL.
Puck Daddy is great. The best blog on the Yahoo site.
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
And their so called journalists are biased.
Big Lie: Big Ten
Clueless in Columbus
Must-win for OSU
Pryor wins but can’t find consistency
All of these “stories” have an apparent negative connotation. That’s the way Yahoo! Sports covers the Ohio State football program, and it’s not honest journalism.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Those “stories” are columns, written by “Yahoo! sports’ national columnist.” They are supposed to have a bias.
Did you happen to notice Wetzal’s face is on those? And his face isn’t on the Ohio State article from last night.
You must have missed this, from the original report last night:
By Charles Robinson and Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
How convenient, eh? You must be as honest as these Yahoo! guys.
I’m seeing a bit of a pattern with this Wetzel character.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I’m not really getting the hate at Wetzel. He’s good at the investigative stuff; he has a fault, and it’s that he tries to turn every piece he writes into an investigation, but he really got the piece right, even though it appeared weak in the beginning.
I dislike Wetzel’s pieces because he essentially does the opposite of homerism. He writes a lot of his stuff with an obvious slant that makes it not at all enjoyable to read, and makes him intellectually dishonest. Adrain Woj and Jason Cole to the same crap, and it’s not good sports journalism.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
So your lack of reading comprehension = my dishonesty? Nice.
Re-read my post. Face is the key, not byline.
Ah, yes, the picture of his face is the key here.
When 100% of his coverage of this specific program is negative 100% of the time, that’s irrelevant, so long as they get the picture of his face or lack of one right.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
You’ve clearly made up you mind about the guy, and that’s fine. I’m certainly not saying his opinion stuff is good or bad – I don’t read his columns myself, fwiw.
But the content from the article we’ve been discussing the last 24 hours seem to have been good. His past opinion that the Big Ten football schedule is easy doesn’t change that.
I’ve made the observation that coverage of the Ohio State football program on Yahoo! Sports has a very notable bias. That’s they way they do things. It’s relevant here as they sensationalize things in a negative way in order to gain traffic and thus generate ad revenue. Yahoo! also does that on a regular basis. Again, that’s the way they do things. Big bold red letters on the front page that read BREAKING and talking about firings and vacating seasons, for what amounted to a 2-game suspension. Even now, the Yahoo! Sports front page has well over 5 links to this stuff. I don’t even like ESPN either, but for comparison go to their homepage, and there is one small text link. This situation has been blown way out of proportion by none other than the very same outlet that consistently covers the program in a negative light, big surprise.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Every news organization that’s ever existed had the goal of making money – that’s not unique to Yahoo. And there is nothing wrong with saying “Breaking” when they are, you know, breaking a story.
Jim Tressel getting suspended and fined is a big story. Go check out the front of Foxsports, CBSSportsline, etcs., big pics of JT with links to the story.
Nothing I’ve seen by Yahoo is dramatically different than what you’d get if any major outlet got to the story first. When you get the story you need to promote it.
Sure, then we better start preparing for Yahoo!’s Level Five in which Tressel is fired, the 5 players are completely ineligible for 2011, we lose scholarships, receive a bowl ban, and vacate our entire 2010 season.
Ha! Now more people are likely to click www.AwesomePennyStocks.com in the sidebar, their paying premium for that banner.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I'd take Urban in a heartbeat. Not over Tressel, but when Tress retires? Yes.
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
Lol, I didn't mean it like that. But he would probably be the best candidate for the job.
"Carrie, I can't go in there, I'm claustrophobic."
"Well, It's gonna' be a rough half hour for ya then."
-Doug Heffernan coming to grips with the cold reality of an MRI machine
It would be hard for me to accept him. Maybe I’m wrong but He rubbed me the wrong way during the 06 title game after he let Tebow throw and score a td late in the 4th qtr when the game was already won by Florida.
Funny cause a year later in the 07 title game, Coach Miles (a Michigan man) was in the same position late in the 4th qtr and a smaller lead and he did the opposite of Urban.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
Tress takes the AD job and Urban comes back to Ohio State.
My dream scenario.
by Cry on Mar 9, 2011 2:57 AM EST up reply actions
Urban Meyer was involved in far more nefarious doings at Florida than this. And that’s what probably bothers me most about this issue— Jim Tressel appears dirty to the college football world at large. Everyone involved in scouting or recruiting in the South has stories about each program that would make the hair on your neck stand up, but proving these allegations are extremely difficult. If Southern schools had the oversight that Ohio State had as an institution, Cameron Newton would have been suspended and the recruiting game down there would be much cleaner.
I know Urban isn't a clean sheet.
But having a Buckeye guy is important to me. In a decade or so when Tress will be winding down, Urban will be only as old as JT is now. He can enjoy his broadcasting career, and perhaps some of the more nefarious doings attached to his name will be forgotten. That’s not to say I approve of that mentality, especially in the wake of our own problems but I view Urban as a great coach and an even better recruiter (as long as it’s by the books). Although I think he would have to adjust his football philosophy to be a little more Ohio State and B1G in general.
Not that I think it would happen, just musings.
by Cry on Mar 9, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
THIS
Chekwa came on a radio show (comman man and the torg) and he explained how viscous the SEC schools were in recruiting compared to Ohio State.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
There are certain inconsistencies in the report. Clearly, Tressel should have asked for legal advice from Ohio State, but it’s just as clear that he felt a real responsibility to the investigation to keep it quiet. We’re going to have a lot more on this in the coming days, unfortunately, but a quick recap of events should be up later.
OK, so it appears tha we are going to be a bit short-handed, on and off the field for the first few games, eh?
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
Yeah, shouldn’t be a problem.
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
Against Akron and Toledo…They should.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
ouch….How many practices do they do during Spring quarter?
Non Sibi Sed Patriae ;I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Cameron Heyward-Future 3-4 RDE for the New England Patriots
I’m sorry, but the above exchange is too damn funny
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
by KenK on Mar 9, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He’s got a veteran staff, shouldn’t be that much of an issue.
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
That hurts. Can he still direct things during that time?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
OK, that’s enough of this for me tonight. I think we have to step back to keep this in perspective. For example, a month ago I was diagnosed with two (2) types of cancer. Trust me, this week’s events are not that big of a deal.
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
Thanks, Tyler. It’s all Stage 1, so I’m in good shape. My doctor told me that something else will kill me (OSU faux pas’?) not the ‘C’. One of my issues is that since I like to golf, I’ve got about a dozen ball caps, which won’t be doing me any good since I’m trending to the wide-brimmed hats.
Can anyone get me a deal on OSU-themed, signed wide brimmed hats? I keed, I keed…
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
this week’s events are not that big of a deal.
That’s what I’ve been trying to say.
It’s not like our star athlete was paid to come here but laundered the money through his father in order to cover his ass if he ever got caught.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Very sorry to hear.
I just lost a very dear friend to ovarian cancer a couple weeks ago and I’m ashamed to say I certainly lost perspective on this. Thanks for putting me in my place. Hope you beat the c-word.
by Cry on Mar 9, 2011 3:02 AM EST up reply actions
Cry, I appreciate your concern. I’ve very sorry hear about the loss of your very dear friend. But even this is perspective within perspective. The “biggie” of the two “C’s” is mycosis fungoides. I know, it sounds like a Greek omelette. It is uncurable, but very treatable; this will not kill me.. My brother-in-law has multiple myloma, so his time frame is a good bit shorter than mine. So I certainly have gotten the better of the two deals.
Having said that, I am a bit disappointed on how this OSU thing went down. I don’t think there was any malicious intent on JT’s part, but it is what it is. As much respect that I’ve had, and continue to have for Jim Tressel, the integrity of the Ohio State University trumps all. And this, coming from a Muskingum College alumnus.
O-H
"I'm not a psychopath, Anderson, I'm a high-functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes
I-O
Glad to hear that you caught it early and that it’s treatable. Hope you get to hit the links for many many more years. I also agree that I don’t think there was anything malicious in JT’s intentions. I think he made a judgment call, and being that he is human, it may not have been exactly perfect. Agreed that it’s the University’s eyes that I hate to see blackened and I am sure that Jim feels exactly the same way.
by Cry on Mar 9, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sorry to hear that, Ken. I hope you feel better and I’ll pray for you!
by emily522 on Mar 9, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for all the updates in the comment.
Missed the presser. Sitting in bed reading while the misses sleeps because I couldn’t wait until tomorrow. Don’t think she’d appreciate me playing the video. It was nice to get the facts in the timeline in which they were released from a trusted bullshit filter.
by Cry on Mar 9, 2011 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
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