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What Does the 2011 NFL Draft Tell Us About College Football?

Using Draft Score, we get a value for each conference that is dependent on the round its players were selected.

Another edition of the NFL Draft is complete, and focus has already shifted to Andrew Luck and other 2012 hopefuls, but there is still an opportunity to learn from the results of the 2011 version. Draft data is the single most useful tool we have in quantifying the talent levels of players, and through cumulative player data we can measure the talent level of each conference and draw conclusions from the findings.

Unfortunately, raw numbers can be deceiving without any meaningful context. The Big Ten had 29 players selected in the 2011 draft and the Pac-10 had 32, leading some to rank the Pac-10 as the more talented conference. But the majority of Pac-10 players were spread throughout the middle and late rounds of the draft, while the Big Ten had 6 first-round picks and 10 within the first two rounds. Should David Ausberry, a seventh-round Pac-10 selection, count just as much as J.J. Watt, a first-round Big Ten pick?

I think everyone agrees that raw numbers are a poor way to measure talent in the NFL Draft. We must account for the round in which a player was selected to filter out some of the "noise" and to better ascertain which conferences are really producing the most talent. To do so, I've developed a very simple system that rewards higher draft picks on a points system that follows a steady, descending slope. First round picks receive 7 points, second round picks receive 6 points, and so on, until we finish with seventh-round picks, who only receive 1 point apiece. I've dubbed the system "Draft Score," and I think it adds some needed context into draft analysis without using complicated formulas.

Draft Score relies on one important theorem: the higher a player is drafted, the more talented he is. It is a pretty safe assumption to make, but it's still an assumption, so I turned to Advanced NFL Stats for some research.

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This chart, and two others on Advanced NFL Stats, indicates that talent does indeed correlate to draft position. The higher you are selected in the NFL Draft, the more talented you probably are.

Once I determined that Draft Score made theoretical sense, I needed to apply the points system to each round of the draft, segregating the players selected into their respective conferences and tallying up the aggregate points to reach a total. Thankfully, the USA Today Draft Database made that process much easier than it sounds.

SEC ACC Big Ten Pac-10 Big 12 Big East M. West
1st Round 10 3 6 3 8 1 0
2nd Round 2 12 4 5 2 1 1
3rd Round 8 4 2 5 2 2 1
4th Round 4 5 4 3 6 3 1
5th Round 4 2 4 4 3 6 3
6th Round 3 5 7 6 1 6 2
7th Round 7 4 2 6 8 3 2
Total Drafted 38 35 29 32 30 22 10
Draft Score 163 153 120 118 121 68 30

I left out the WAC, because it won't exist in a meaningful form after this season. Boise State, Fresno State, and Nevada were the top talent producers from the conference, and without them, the WAC will cease to matter in the NFL Draft.

We are left, then, with seven major conferences, six of which are BCS members, accounting for most of the talent drafted in 2011. It's important to note that not all conferences have the same number of members. The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 each have twelve teams, the Big Ten has eleven, the Pac-10 has ten, the Mountain West has nine, and the Big East only has eight.

Over the next two seasons, these numbers will shift all over the place, but that can be adjusted in future editions. Right now, we'll attribute Nebraska's talent to the Big 12 because said talent never played a single conference game against the Big Ten.

Unquestionably, the SEC won the draft. The conference has deserved acclaim for the championships it has won the past five seasons, but the success of the SEC is not magically gained. The SEC wins because the SEC has the most talent, both in raw and adjusted numbers.

ACC fans should be proud of their conference, as well. While Draft Score penalizes them a bit for not having many first round picks, it recognizes the tremendous amount of second round talent they had selected. Twelve ACC players went in the second round, seven more than the next closest conference. ACC fans can't quite claim that they are in the same talent tier as the SEC, but they can at least know they exist in a second tier of their own, ahead of the Big 12, Big Ten, and Pac-10.

Other Thoughts

  • If you want one reason why the Big Ten experienced a resurgence last season, look to the defensive line. Five defensive linemen from five different Big Ten teams were selected in the first round. That was more, much more, than any other conference, including the mighty SEC.
  • Some prognosticators believe the MWC is better than the Big East, but I think we can put that idea to rest. The MWC conference has a better top team, TCU, than the Big East, but the overall talent level of the nine member conference does not match up with the eight member Big East.
  • That said, I think there's an argument to be had against the Big East's automatic BCS bid. Much of the venom directed towards the BCS could be reduced if the Big East's bid became another open bid going to the most deserving team. In a year where we had two non-automatic qualifiers clearly better than the Big East's best, a lot of the argument over Boise State and TCU could have been avoided if Connecticut did not receive an automatic invitation to the BCS party.
  • Should first round selections receive even more points than 7? I toyed with the idea of further rewarding first round picks with 8 points, but I ultimately decided against it for simplicity's sake. I do want to tinker with the formula for future editions, and one adjustment that makes sense to me is dividing the top ten from the rest of the first round. Top ten picks are the crème de la crème, and should be rewarded as such.

How many points should top ten picks receive? 8, or even more?

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      Very nice breakdown. But I would hesitsate to give more weight to Top 10 picks as many teams (especially this year) reach for the QB position (and sometimes other positions as well), which could skew some of the overall numbers.

      by talonk on May 5, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

      Would that be balanced by the importance of quarterbacks on the field? Say, if Jake Locker turns out to be an above average, but not elite, starter in the NFL for eight seasons, would that still make him more valuable than a three or four time Pro-Bowler at a less important position?

      by Tyler T. on May 5, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

      other ideas

      Although these stats are interesting, I don’t know if it really tells the whole story. I would like to see a past comparison of how many seasons each drafted player from each conference ended up playing in the nfl. Maybe something from 5 to 50 years ago. Then adjust for percentages by conference size. If we keep track every year, five years from now, we could see how many players from this year in each conference are still playing pro football.

      by darjen on May 5, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

      i would question the accuracy of the rankings just based on the fact that the acc is second. the quality of the teams in that conference was pathetic compared to the pac 10 and sec last year (the pac 10 was actually ranked ahead of the sec in most computer rankings of the conferences last season). maybe having nfl talent is not the same as having a great college team. or maybe the acc numbers are skewed because of all those north carolina players who got drafted but didn’t play this past season. i definitely think you have to adjust for the size of the conference by dividing each number by the number of teams in the conference.

      by longpasses on May 5, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

      maybe having nfl talent is not the same as having a great college team.

      Coaching matters. The ACC is located in prime country for recruiting, but they do not devote the same amount of resources to football as their geographical counterpart, the SEC. Coaching salaries, facilities, and booster involvement is much higher in the SEC than the ACC. If the ACC ever became serious about football, it would require a massive amount of money to catch up with the SEC.

      I don’t believe we’ll ever see the ACC invest in football like the SEC, but we will see it on a program-by-program level. FSU is a fitting example of this. They are paying heavily for a top coaching staff, building new facilities, and drawing more donations from boosters, which has led to a renaissance of Seminole football over the past three years.

      by Tyler T. on May 5, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

      Nicely Done!

        Some appear to want to make talent evaluation more exact than it actually is. This is obviously meant to give a better understand in broad view of how the talent may stack up. However, I don’t agree that it’s just the ACC schools lack dedication to football. If you look deeper I’m sure most of the high round SEC picks come from UF, UA, Auburn, LSU and maybe UT. Do Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy, Miss ST not care about football or are they located in states that aren’t as populated with strong Division 1 talent? Yes, the top SEC schools devote money and resources to winning in football, but success starts with having an abundance of talent to recruit. You can win in BB with a few great players but that obviously not the case in Football. UM needs a resurgence if the ACC is going to compete with the SEC. The state of Florida produces about 300 D1 scholarship players every year. Both conferences dip into that supply but the schools that have success on the field built on their own in state talent are more likely to lure some top tier talent out of the state. i.e. UA, Auburn or LSU. Four of our schools are located in NC…there’s simply not enough HS talent year in year out to fill those rosters. Bottom line is the SEC states are more highly populated with D1 HS talent. IF FSU and UM are hitting on all cylinders we can keep it in balance, without UM operating on a high level the ACC will most likly stay at 2nd or 3rd in overall talent. (UNC was an abnormally stacked this year…not so sure their recruiting under BD has been on the up and up?)

      by FSUALLTHEDAMNTIME! on May 7, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

      Do Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy, Miss ST not care about football or are they located in states that aren’t as populated with strong Division 1 talent? Yes, the top SEC schools devote money and resources to winning in football, but success starts with having an abundance of talent to recruit.

      You cannot compare the bottom half of the SEC to the top half of the ACC. FSU spends more money on their football program and thus has more success than the schools you mentioned, both in winning games and putting players in the NFL. The question isn’t, do low-tier SEC schools win more and produce more talent than ACC schools? They don’t. But low-tier SEC schools outproduce low-tier ACC schools by any measure.

      In-state talent certainly matters, and the examples you’ve stated are appropriate explanations for why Florida has so many good football programs. But it doesn’t explain why the University of Florida has been so much more successful than both their ACC counterparts the past decade, Miami and Florida State. The answer is money. Florida can afford the best coaches and facilities, while the other two major programs in the state have had money issues, and still do to some extent.

      by Tyler T. on May 9, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

      One thing about Miami is where they used to recruit when they were good. They didn’t really hit all of Florida hard, so much as the area around Miami. Then they hit the NE hard, grabbing lots of quality kids out of New Jersey, New York, and Eastern Pennsylvania. Since they moved to the ACC it’s been harder for them to recruit those kids, and they’ve had trouble establishing other areas for recruiting.

      In the name of the Woody, the Bo, and the Mustache Ride. Amen.

      by Pariahwulfen on May 9, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

      The ACC also plays the toughest schedule of non-conference games, by far, thus hurting its reputation. If voters saw resume instead of record, then the Big10 could not get away with garbage scheduling as it does on the whole.

      '11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
      '10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
      '09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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      by Bud Elliott on May 6, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

      persoanlly, I’d give the nod to the Pac10/12 … but ACC does have more rivalry games with the SEC, but they also overload on FCS schools quite often, 12 or more the past 3-4 years,

      by talonk on May 9, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

      Very nice work, Tyler, thank you. I think that your point assignment works just fine. I wouldn’t do anything with Top Ten picks. I think that there are quite a few variables in play to cut this analysis too finely. I think this can give a good indication of comparison of conference recruiting/development.

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      by KenK on May 6, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

      Interesting concept

      This is an interesting concept, but may not be a reliable measure of conference differences. For example, your conclusion that “ACC fans can’t quite claim that they are in the same talent tier as the SEC” makes some sense qualitatively (if you look at the number of 1st round selections), but what is the significance of a 10 point spread in the final quantitative assessment? 10 points means that the SEC produced roughly 2 more 3rd round picks, or 1 more 1st rounder and 1 more 5th rounder (or some other combo) than the ACC out of 264 offensive and defensive starters in each conference. (That doesn’t even account for nickel backs and other draftable players who may not be starters.)

      A 2-3 player difference means that the SEC produced less than 1% more draftable NFL talent than the ACC. Even the discrepancy between the SEC and the Big Ten only amounts to a 2% to 3% difference in draftable NFL talent across all the starters in each conference. Does this really translate to a difference on the field, or explain why the football played in one conference seems so much better than that played in another?

      The challenge is that every conference has so many starters who will never get drafted (e.g., 85% of starters in the SEC were not drafted) that draft results are likely not the most reliable indicator of conference talent. Not to mention the differences between the college game and the NFL game. The difference in competition between conferences is likely driven more by the talent of the players who aren’t drafted than by the ones who are.

      The talent level of each conference is likely best measured in terms of the talent level of the undraftable players who support or back up the few, elite, draftable guys. I suspect that depth is what makes the SEC appear to be the best conference on the field.

      by NolesStat! on May 6, 2011 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

      My statement really comes down to a supposition that this year is representative of most years, i.e. the gap between the SEC and ACC will look roughly the same in 2000-2010 as it did in 2011. That supposition could be wrong, and I intend to see if it is wrong with more research, but I don’t believe it’s a risky supposition to make. 320 players have been drafted from the ACC in that ten year period, while 450 have been selected from the SEC. Could I be wrong? Sure. But those extra 130 players have to count somewhere for the SEC, and I’m willing to bet that it will further reveal the discrepancy between the two conferences.

      by Tyler T. on May 9, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

      Would be interesting to show mean and Std deviations here

      Because that would exemplify the fact that the ACC on a whole as terrible coaching. The Big 12 is spread semi equally along the rounds whereas the SEC and ACC are very much top heavy. Man if we had competent coaching across the board the ACC could be nasty. Thankfully it is not full of competent coaching and FSU doesn’t have to worry about the shear talent coming from everything because of stupid coaches…(see Dabo)

      by fsugrizz on May 6, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

      Something else to consider is how many of the players drafted actually were on the field.

      UNC would have been a NC caliber team if they fielded the entire defense the whole year. That defense would have been beyond nasty

      by fsugrizz on May 6, 2011 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

      It might be of interest

      to show as a line item the “normalized” or “per team” draft score. That is, the draft score divided by the number of teams in the conference.

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      by fmnole on May 7, 2011 1:49 AM EDT reply actions  

      Makes sense to me.

      "Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

      by rufio on May 7, 2011 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

      Unless part of this score is meant to measure not only the quality of teams in a conference but also the sheer amount of quality players in some way.

      "Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

      by rufio on May 7, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

      That is absolutely needed and will be included in the next version.

      by Tyler T. on May 9, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

      My first impulse is that there is way too much difference in the first pick of a round and the last. Would it be incredibly time intensive to assign points per pick, like the guide the pros use when trading picks?

      by NHNole on May 8, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

      Your first impulse makes a lot of sense, and I’ve actually discussed this with someone else interested in further improvement to the system. It will take a ton of time, but it’s where this ultimately needs to head. While the NFL draft chart has issues, it is something most (all?) NFL teams value when making decisions. It will give us a better picture of what draft picks are really worth to NFL teams.

      by Tyler T. on May 9, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

      Another point to consider. Of the 120+ FBS schools, many many run offenses and defenses that will not translate to the pros. So a QB like Andre Ware will not make a good pro. There may be a lot of talent on some of these gimmicky teams, but that alone tends to downgrade them in socuts eyes, at least initially.

      There are plenty of guys who could make the transistion, but never ever get a look except as body bag players in training camp. And very few of them can survive that transition.

      by talonk on May 9, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

      I believe the object of football players is to PLAY in The League.

      It is far more meaningful to see who actually made the 53-man NFL Rosters, looking back at last season. If you made a roster, you are an elite football player of that there is no doubt. You most likely got in games, if you made a roster too. One cannot do that analysis at this time about this 2011 NFL Draft.

      But, if you wanted to evaluate this 2011 NFL Draft, you should weight it in groups of 1-10, 11-20, 21-30…

      The object is the lowest score, wins.

      Overall picks # 1 to # 10 are worth their actual pick # as their value.

      1. for # 1, 2 for #2, 9 for # 9, 10 for pick # 10.
        #11-20 get 10 penalty points each, so # 11 is worth 21 points, not 11.
        #21-30 get 20 penalty points each, so # 21 is worth 41 points, not 21.

      Overall Pick # 31 would get then 30 penalty points, so # 31 is worth 61 points.

      Again, lowest score wins.

      Here is what I found most relevant from the 2011 NFL Draft :

      2011 NFL STATE BREAKDOWN
       
      STATE

      PLAYERS DRAFTED

      1. CALIFORNIA 42
      2. FLORIDA 36
      3. TEXAS 29
      4. GEORGIA 19
      5. NORTH CAROLINA 10
      6. OHIO 10
      7. ALABAMA 7
      8. PENNSYLVANIA 7

      http://www.usafootball.com/news/featured-articles/colton-high-school-california-leads-all-high-schools-three-players-selected-2

      by Thomas Brown UGA on May 14, 2011 2:43 AM EDT reply actions  

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