What Next?
A simple question with many competing answers.There are so many facets of this situation that need examination, so many layers that need to be peeled away and diagnosed, that it almost feels overwhelming to attempt any sort of written piece discussing anything to do with what just took place. A sense of plummeting, like a skydiver with a torn parachute, defines this situation. It began poorly enough with six players' suspensions and just kept getting worse, tainting a fine 2010 football season and derailing a successful athletics program.
There will be more, much more, written about this situation for a very long time. This is not a story that will disappear in a day, month, or season. It will remain an irreversible part of Ohio State history forever, and it deserves the attention it will receive over the next year. After the jump, I offer my first analysis of the new NCAA investigation, but before that, a word on our less-than-distinguished leader.
An Incompetent Captain Pilots This Ship
In the thread discussing the Sports Illustrated article, I said that Gene Smith needs to be fired immediately. I was too hasty with that proclamation. Ohio State needs an athletic director to guide the program through the NCAA investigation and hearing. After the NCAA announces its ruling and this book sees its final page, Gene Smith then needs to be fired immediately.
From the initial press conference, when Smith, Tressel, and President E. Gordon Gee stumbled through their speeches and failed to establish a sturdy position, to the continued drip of new information surrounding the program, Smith has done nothing but reveal himself as an amateur posturing as a professional. He failed to coordinate and bolster the administration's defense, he failed to control the message, allowing the media to mold the narrative into a tabloid editor's exotic fantasy, and then he engaged in the ultimate act of cowardice, sharing the news of Tressel's resignation through a press clipping and Youtube video. Saving Smith the distinction of being named worst athletic director during a crisis are the lunatic rantings of that loon at USC, Mike Garrett.
An athletic director's job can be difficult or easy, depending on the success of their coaches. Jim Tressel and Thad Matta have combined to make Gene Smith's job the easiest of any athletic director at any major program since Smith's hiring in 2005. Smith was allowed to frolic and play in his athletic fiefdom, firing and hiring coaches in sports that receive little attention, collecting a large and steady paycheck, and ultimately building his legacy as an able athletic director at a thriving institution.
When crisis did strike and Jim Tressel placed Smith and the program in a perilous position, Smith behaved as if he were still at Eastern Michigan. His management of the situation was poor enough to warrant termination, but that speaks nothing to his potential knowledge of the violations. With an ever-widening scope in the investigation-- or is it investigations now?-- it has become increasingly hard to believe that Tressel acted as a rogue agent determined to maintain the eligibility of his athletes, bureaucracy be damned. At best, Gene Smith is incapable of running a major athletic department; at worst, he is culpable in the downfall of a golden age in Ohio State athletics.
Whatever your conclusion, the result is the same. Gene Smith is not suited to the job of Ohio State Athletic Director.
Terrelle Pryor & George Dohrmann
Ohio State and the NCAA are again investigating Terrelle Pryor and possible improper benefits. The Columbus Dispatch confirmed that the investigation is centered around Pryor's car purchases, with Pryor rumored to have leased eight or more cars in his time at Ohio State. There are also indications that the investigation extends to his housing arrangements and other day-to-day activities. Nothing definitive can be said about the Pryor investigation until the NCAA either issues another "notice of allegations" or announces a completion to their evidence-gathering. It is just more rumor and innuendo until then.
It may never come to that point, however, if Pryor enters the NFL Supplementary Draft and refuses to cooperate with NCAA investigators. Reggie Bush avoided questioning by the NCAA with his entrance into the NFL Draft, eventually being charged with violations due to a broken deal with a vindicative NFL agent. Even if violations exist around Pryor, they will be difficult for the NCAA to prove without cooperation from those who administered the improper benefits. Lacking subpoena power, the NCAA struggles to convince civilians to aid them in their investigations.
By far, the Pryor situation holds the most danger for Ohio State. George Dohrmann's article, while incendiary, lacks documentation that the NCAA has previously relied on to prove wrongdoing. Dez Bryant was suspended after Deion Sanders informed the NCAA that he did indeed visit his house, and USC was hit after an audio recording implicated Todd McNair.
Dohrmann's anonymous, criminal sources and ex-players aren't testifying in an NCAA courtroom. It's quick and easy to speak your mind to a Sports Illustrated reporter who comes to your door, but it is much different traveling to an NCAA hearing and condemning an entire institution for nothing in return. Rob Rose and Ray Small may be stupid, but they are not stupid enough to testify against Ohio State with real consequences resting on their words.
The anonymous "Ellis" would not even allow his real name to be used in the story, yet he is going to repeat those statements in an NCAA courtroom, under intense questioning from Ohio State's lawyers and NCAA investigators, and all he gets in return is a surrendering of the anonymity he fought to protect? Right.
What can the NCAA prove? I have no clear answers here. However, if Ohio State is to be punished like USC, the NCAA must do a better job than George Dohrmann.
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My only fear with keeping Smith around until the August hearings is the continuing damage he might inflict. Kind of the who-else-can-i-throw-under-the-bus mentality. I’d be shocked if Pryor DIDN’T enter the sup draft, but diving into the weak cesspool with a potential lockout looming sounds like worse punishment than staying a Buckeye.
Tending the Farm for The Copper & Blue
I know similar crap (the O'Brien scandal) is why Geiger retired
But am I the only one who thinks Tressel would still be our coach if Andy was at the helm when this all transpired.
I agree about Smith BTW. The fact that compliance did not find out about the other nine tattoo ofenders (allegedly) will be the reason he eventually resigns — if it proves to be true. John Simon has already come forward stating he can prove he acquired his ink in high school.
Not just Gene Smith
I believe E. Gordon Gee will be terminated as well. Both have handled this entire situation from the beginning terribly, and it would not surprise me if Ohio State decided to clean house with Gee and Smith.
Good article, Tyler.
Gee is a rube
he needs to be kept well away from the athletic department. But the trustees paid a lot of money to bring him back to OSU because he’s incredibly well respected (in academia) and raises prodigious amounts of $$$. Why would they get rid of hom now? Especially since they’ve got him over the barrel for the next few years due to this.
You get rid of Gee, no university president or provost wortht their salt takes this job because it shows football really does drive the OSU train.
But Smith’s got to go.
football really does drive the OSU train.
Anyone that doesn’t already know that isn’t smart enough to be a university president anyhow.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Ohio State is more than just football. Gee is well-respected by academics and alumni, and he can promote Ohio State better than anyone. Gene Smith’s job is to protect Gordon Gee from becoming involved in athletics. He failed at that, too.
The good folks at James saved my life
and althoiugh the hawks have my heart
anything that is bad for the B1G is bad for the hawks
I have been spit on in the shoe and schott just for wearing black and gold
tOSU fans are by far the biggest arrogant pigs
i have ever encountered
and the preacher vest turns out to be jimmy swaggart,
you want my suprised look?
what my sorrow is for is ALL the rest of the kids
who didnt do anything
when the NCAA gets done with the tOSU
they will never see a bowl game
and lose ten scholarships for three years
was the sugar bowl worth it?
btw
you can see the shoe
from the the 8th floor lounge at the James
which washes away all the spit
i have endured
casue there is more to tOSU
Long Live the Pellican Whore - like FOREVER
University presidents don't get dismissed because of things like this
just keep him away from athletics, but the man is excellent at running the University itself.
I still think the jury is out on Smith. I want to find out what, if anything, the compliance office knew before December. If we find out the department was complicit on a larger scale, then I think Smith deserves much more culpability.
I’m really not sure, based on what we know to this point, what Smith could have done better to head all this off. If Tressel tells the truth in December, I still believe we’re not at this point. Now did Smith advise him to keep quiet? That’s an important question as well.
Nailed It
Excellent post stating what too few are willing to face at the moment. Gene Smith completely botched this from the start. First, his compliance office wasn’t doing its job if this many shenanigans were going on, and involved so many players. Secondly, the botched presser, when Tressel’s NCAA lie came to light, was an absolute joke. Nothing about it was professional or serious or forthcoming. Then, and only then, did the media heydey racthet up to unbearavle levels. If Gene Smith had announced that Jim Tressel was being suspended indefinitely, pending a continued, internal as well as NCAA investigation, I think the media backlash would have been far less severe. Yes, they would be snooping about for stories but assuming TOSU was close to its own understanding of events, they could have followed up a few weeks later with its own statement of the facts and thus controlled the narrative. Gene Smith is the one—not Tressel—who has allowed the entire school to be painted with a cheater brush. The guy should be fired immediately. And a trusted interim AD (comeback Andy please) should lead the school through this rough road ahead.
Nailed It
Excellent post stating what too few are willing to face at the moment. Gene Smith completely botched this from the start. First, his compliance office wasn’t doing its job if this many shenanigans were going on, and involved so many players. Secondly, the botched presser, when Tressel’s NCAA lie came to light, was an absolute joke. Nothing about it was professional or serious or forthcoming. Then, and only then, did the media heydey racthet up to unbearavle levels. If Gene Smith had announced that Jim Tressel was being suspended indefinitely, pending a continued, internal as well as NCAA investigation, I think the media backlash would have been far less severe. Yes, they would be snooping about for stories but assuming TOSU was close to its own understanding of events, they could have followed up a few weeks later with its own statement of the facts and thus controlled the narrative. Gene Smith is the one—not Tressel—who has allowed the entire school to be painted with a cheater brush. The guy should be fired immediately. And a trusted interim AD (comeback Andy please) should lead the school through this rough road ahead.
Pryor
I doubt the NCAA needs Pryor’s cooperation to prove anything. They are already investigating the car deals, which they do have access to, and they will easily be able to determine whether Pryor was getting a ton of extra equipment because there’s going to be a paper trail there.
Smith and Gee...
…you nailed on the head. They did virtually everything wrong.
Pryor’s situation…
…is overstated. Even if found guilty (preliminary reports were he was exploiting a loop hole in the rules) he is 1 player who might be suspended the rest of the year – a big drop from allegations of car deals.
Dohrmann’s revelation…
…was a non-revelation, another nail on the head. The Tressel e-mails submitted to the NCAA noted there were former and likely other current players selling memorabilia.
Some additional players…
…might get suspensions for 1 to 4 games. Most don’t realize player suspensions are based on the individual’s history and the infraction, not other player’s actions or peripheral sanctions (unlike most, I agree with how the NCAA handles infractions).
All of these combined wouldn’t result in further sanctions.
Tressel withholding information and playing ineligible players…
…is the only issue to drive further sanctions. Expect vacated wins if the NCAA wants more than Tressel’s resignation, probation, and fines… but no bowl ban, and scholarship reductions are a long shot.
The reason it won’t be harsher…
…is because it is 1 individual hiding knowledge of 2 players selling personal awards. You can only take this so far past his dismissal.
It won’t be as harsh as USC and others…
…because the NCAA has already shown they do not consider Tressel’s infractions a result of loss of institutional control. This is an accurate assessment given the NCAA’s definition.
you forgot one thing
The reason it’ll be harsher than normal…
The NCAA needs to get college football back in control. That means making an example of someone with a high profile.
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The NCAA needs to get college football back in control. That means making an example of someone with a high profile.
I understand this sentiment, and agree to some degree, whoever, the real problems run a lot deeper, but the NCAA has no intention of fixing those. Instead, they’ll make an example of someone with a high profile to improve their public image, that way they can continue to profit billions on young armature athletes.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
This has already been accomplished
The NCAA needs to get college football back in control. That means making an example of someone with a high profile.
Aside from being an ENORMOUS leap with no factual backing…
The resignation of 1 of the most successful college coaches over the last decade fits this bill.
2 for 1
Tressel withholding information and playing ineligible players……is the only issue to drive further sanctions. Expect vacated wins if the NCAA wants more than Tressel’s resignation, probation, and fines… but no bowl ban, and scholarship reductions are a long shot.
If all this amounts to secondary violations by a few players (OSU’s desired outcome and what they expressed in the March press conference), ans Coach Tressel with a 10.1 violation, I think you are correct. However, if it morphs into something more than that, like OSU hit with a major violation(s), the NCAA usually docks 2 scholarships for each athlete found in violation of bylaws. I don’t know what they’d do if, for example, it turns out that the SI story proves entirely true (not likely) and 28 players within the statute of limitations are found in violation. That’s 56 scholarships, or nearly double what USC was docked.
No, it will be as harsh as USC
Tressel lying to the NCAA is not a loss of institutional control; you are correct. But this is much, much more than “1 individual hiding knowledge of 2 players selling personal awards.” you don’t even have the facts right. when you include willful ignoring of 20-30 players getting tats for memorabilia over the last 4 years (when the five-year statute of limitations hasn’t passed), and the undocumented cars, and the lack of any credible investigation put on by the Ohio St athletic department, and Troy Smith taking money from a booster within the five-year window … you guys could easily looking at something comparable to USC’s penalties.
Maybe firing Tressel was enough to hold off the NCAA hammer, but you can’t sit there and think “oh it won’t be as harsh.” It EASILY could be as harsh.
Good news is that OSU won’t get the SMU death penalty. No way.
You are assuming that what you read was fact in regard to the 20-30 players. You are basing it off of the word of an unnamed source who was refuted by several co-workers. The other player’s car deals have been found to be on the up and up by the DMV. Troy was in fact punished for his “crime” and i believe was not in the 5 yr window. It could be a severe penalty for what is already substantiated, but to accept the report as fact would be making a mistake at this point.
I am going by the NCAA procedures...
1. The Vest is only being hit on his violations."1 individual hiding knowledge of 2 players selling personal awards." The other investigations are not wrapped in.
2. If any additional violations are handed down for selling memorabilia, it will be separate.
you don’t even have the facts right. when you include willful ignoring of 20-30 players getting tats for memorabilia over the last 4 years (when the five-year statute of limitations hasn’t passed),
You might want to check before claiming others have their facts wrong. It was under 30 players over about a decade (perhaps more), and nobody is claiming the Vest had knowledge of them.
and the undocumented cars
Trty again – they were documented. Forget about finding used Dodges whose price averaged $11,600 (possibly more given the dealer did some accounting tricks to artificially drop the listed price), where it has already been determined the dealer made a profit on every car sale.
the lack of any credible investigation put on by the Ohio St athletic department,
Try again – it was an internal investigation that turned up the e-mails, not an active investigation, tip, or current investigation.
you guys could easily looking at something comparable to USC’s penalties.
You are running out of tokens fast, but try again anyway…
USC was handed a harsh penalty because of the perceived reason, not the infractions – loss of institutional control – not the severity or number of infractions.
Boise is facing the same charge with minor infractions.
Your confusion likely revolves around misinformation about the infractions (easy enough with the rumor will) and a misunderstanding of how a loss of institutional control is determined.
you can’t sit there and think "oh it won’t be as harsh." It EASILY could be as harsh.
Without the loss of institutional control, the sanctions are only for the individual transgressions. The NCAA already limited Tressel’s hearings to his transgressions only without consideration of broader issues.
thanks for the clarification
sounds like I don’t have reliable facts on the 20-30 players. But even if it is Tressel lying + even just 1 or 2 players who are found guilty of receiving extra benefits from a 3rd party, that’s still enough for a postseason ban and a loss of scholarships. Precedent: Reggie Bush got extra benefits from an agent, and the NCAA ruled that the coaches “should have” known. Anyway, good luck, these must be trying times for the fans
Does this mean that
Gene Smith has to return his Sports Business Journal AD of the Year Award from 2 weeks ago?
He traded it for a really, really cool Gordon Gee tat...
…oops, I wasn’t suppose to leak that.
In short...
Reggie Bush got extra benefits from an agent, and the NCAA ruled that the coaches "should have" known. Anyway, good luck, these must be trying times for the fans
This is a good definition of loss of institutional control. USC was deemed to laxed in their enforcement of NCAA rules.
It wasn’t the severity of the infraction (reference Boise) but the lack of adequate measures by USC.
Realize that USC is heavily dependent on programs self policing (which is working heavily in OSUs favor now).
One problem with the USC case
The NCAA said high profile players require higher levels of oversight. Whether that is jsut dicta, or becomes precedent remains to be seen.
Precedents are non-binding
NCAA rules state that no previous ruling serves as a binding precedent for future cases. For each case involving major violations, the COI can assign whatever penalties they see fit within the bounds of NCAA Bylaw 19.5.2.1. If a school feels that the penalty is too severe, then they can appeal the ruling.
This is not to say that the COI does not consider precedents when making rulings. They just aren’t bound by them. And this is problematic for OSU, especially considering that the COI gave USC much harsher sanctions than they have given for similar penalties in the past and the NCAA is making noise about cracking down on rulebreakers.
Yes, I’m aware. I’m not asking OctaShields for a a dissertation on NCAA precedent history, but for clarification on his statement. What is there no precedent for, exactly?
I’m kind of surprised that a simple comment drew so much venom. I really didn’t even make any value judgments either way, but apparently some people got set off. What I meant is basically what Seth9 just said in his post: past COI opinions are not binding on future COI decisions. They could have the exact same fact pattern and issue a completely different ruling if they wanted.
I am not deeply versed in Committee on Infractions history and their processes, but I’ve studied them a little bit and I’d like to think I understand their basic framework and M.O.s. I have no idea whether this means something positive or negative for OSU relative to the punishment that USC received. I wouldn’t even care to hazard a guess.
biggy84, I’m choosing to respond to you in a polite way, which may or may not be warranted. If you read my comment, rogerja seemed to be implying that OSU was in trouble because Pryor, Posey, etc. might be considered high profiled players like Reggie Bush. I responded to let him know that basically EVERYTHING the COI says is dicta, and if they felt like making no distinction for high profile players in the future, there would be nothing stopping them. So before you think that I’m trolling, take a second to see what I’m actually talking about. I’d like to be reasonable, if that’s in any way possible.
But even if it is Tressel lying + even just 1 or 2 players who are found guilty of receiving extra benefits from a 3rd party, that’s still enough for a postseason ban and a loss of scholarships. Precedent: Reggie Bush got extra benefits from an agent, and the NCAA ruled that the coaches "should have" known. Anyway, good luck, these must be trying times for the fans
The Reggie Bush ruling does not really set a precedent for Ohio State. Bush’s violations— large payments from an agent— would have violated his amateurism. That the coaching staff should have known about it was also a part of a wider issue, with O.J. Mayo, the basketball program, and tennis program heavily contributing to the punishment.
There is no evidence yet that Ohio State players had their amateurism violated. Improper benefits on the level of tattoos and trinkets do not strip players of their amateur status. Obviously, the Pryor investigation could strip him of his amateur status if it’s determined he received larger improper benefits than we currently know about.
A better precedent is the situation Boise State is going through right now, where the athletic program was on probation before committing a major violation. Ohio State is not on probation, but if the NCAA determines that the problem was systemic, they will attempt to prove lack of institutional control.
If you fire Smith before all this is done...
Doesn’t that suggest he doesn’t control the athletic department? And if the AD and the university president don’t control the football program, that sure looks like a lack of control. Maybe the NCAA can’t prove it, but the optics suggest that both men are there until it all shakes out.
Here’s another thought: OSU fans are slagging Pryor like crazy, deservedly so. What does he lose if he gets pissed and testifies?
I don't think you understand...
…the NCAAs definition of loss of institutional control.
It is not even closely related to your comment,
Pryor can knock himself out.
OSU fans are slagging Pryor like crazy, deservedly so. What does he lose if he gets pissed and testifies?
In the NCAA eyes, 1 more player admitting he knew of and violated infractions isn’t a sign of anything more than 21 player admitting he violated infractions.
What if he says
“I said I needed money and Coach Tressel said ’I’ll have the guy that paid Troy Smith hand it to Sarniak’.” (I don’t think this happened. The question is simply, what does he have to lose if he starts talking as Clarett did? He’s already persona non grata in Columbus, I would think, and my bet is that he’s hooked up with an agent, so he doesn’t have amateur status to protect. He wouldn’t be under oath. So what would he lose by talking, even if he lied?)
Can you direct us to a definition of “violated infractions”?
by patrickdolan on Jun 2, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
What would he have to gain by speaking with the NCAA? Non-existent vengeance on the Ohio State program?
Why did Clarett talk?
If enough people try to blame the whole deal on him, I can see him lashing out, yes, especially if there were no negative consequences for him personally. It seems to me that what we know about what he’s done (much less everything that’s alleged) demonstrates minimal loyalty to OSU and his teammates.
People resist being made scapegoats, even when they deserve it.
by patrickdolan on Jun 2, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Maurice Clarett never testified in an NCAA hearing. He is just another example of players who will speak to the media freely but refuse to speak when it matters, in front of the NCAA.
If we learn anything from this saga, it’s that Pryor has had a very good three years in Columbus. He’s not going to tattle on the program because some fans send him angry tweets.
You’re probably right. Stranger things have happened, though.
Was there ever an NCAA inquiry for Clarett to talk to? IIRC, he was talking after the statute of limitations ran out, but I’m happy to be corrected if I’m wrong.
by patrickdolan on Jun 3, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
In his first public comments since head football coach Jim Tressel announced his resignation, Ohio State University President E. Gordon Gee expressed support for athletic director Gene Smith yesterday, despite mounting criticism over an expanding NCAA investigation.
“Gene Smith’s job is safe, yes,” Gee said.
via Dispatch
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