Rules and Regulations, a Reminder
Predictably, we've had an influx of new Ohio State fans joining our community after Monday's events, and there have been plenty of visitors from other fanbases, as well.
We ask that you read our Rules and Regulations page, linked above, and respect the guidelines offered. Special emphasis goes to the subject-line ban, which we did not bother to enforce in the aftershock of Jim Tressel's resignation. It's been an emotional few days, but we do need to return to normal operations soon. The subject line encourages disjointed, drive-by analysis, and it's really a hindrance to discussion and a favored tool for trolls and other undesirables. You wouldn't yell the first three words of every sentence when talking on the phone, so why would you bold the first three words of your thought in text?
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Tyler T.
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Well count me as a Buckeye fan who won’t comment here any more. Had no idea there was a subject line ban. Subject lines are helpful in navigating large threads and making them readable. Makes it easier to sift through comments that aren’t of interest.
And bolding the first three words of something is hardly akin to yelling. NOW ALL CAPS SEEMS LIKE YELLING.
As far as it encouraging “disjointed, drive-by analysis,” I know of SB nation sites with extremely thoughtful, in-depth analysis that happen to use those horrid subject lines.
It just a rather petty thing to police. Use subject lines or don’t, it doesn’t matter to me.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
Subject lines are helpful in navigating large threads and making them readable. Makes it easier to sift through comments that aren’t of interest.
How? If everyone took the time to post an accurate and succinct title in the subject line, then maybe they’d have some value. Even then, is it really that arduous of a process to follow a conversation without collapsing portions of it?
Subject lines are a vestige of ‘90s internet forums without reply buttons and threaded conversations, and SB Nation should have removed them when they moved to the new platform. They serve no useful purpose, no one bothers to use them correctly, and it’s downright painful to read when they fill a page.
This may seem petty, but it’s really not. There are tons of Ohio State sites out there, and we have no dreams of being the largest one, or the one that "breaks" the newest information. We do want the best community with the best discussion, however, and we can’t do that when the discourse is flooded with bold text and looks like the free boards at Scout.com.
To be quite honest, it does help a large thread since you can click on the subject line to hide the comment – this is especially useful when pictures are posted. Subject lines can be quite useful when used correctly and with half of a brain. If you feel that banning their use is the best way to handle the issue then more power to you I guess, but to aspire to be the best OSU community for discussion while being extremely heavy handed about the terms of the discussion seems like a contradiction to me. The best discussions come from a free flow of ideas and viewpoints. If you limit how people who may have differing views can express those views, then you risk losing their input, such as with cesar above. Its your blog so you can do whatever you want, but to attempt to encourage discussion while putting strict guidelines on how the discussion can take place seems counter intuitive to me.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 3, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Subject lines can be quite useful when used correctly and with half of a brain.
Unfortunately, the majority of the posts that have the comment split between the subject line and body refutes the half a brain comment.
To me it is mostly a preference since I grew up on LGT and the discussion works extremely well on that site. I can’t fault Tyler for following that tradition.
Unfortunately, the majority of the posts that have the comment split between the subject line and body refutes the half a brain comment.
If this is true, then his statement on wanting to be the OSU board with the best discussions would be moot. If you can’t figure out the proper way to use a subject line, then I’m not sure that you are going to contribute meaningfully to any discussion.
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 3, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you are being snarky, but the majority of the subject line posts go like this:
That was a great
way to finish off that 3rd quarter.
To me, that does not flow well, or look like an intelligent way to have a discussion.
Again, I’ll reiterate what I said below, you read the rules before signing up, so why not follow them?
Clearly I am following them since I have avoided using a subject line. Like I said, Its your blog and I’ll post in this format if that is what the mods want. What I was saying was that banning subject lines is very heavy handed. I agree that When people split up a sentence like that, it looks horrible and the flow is completely lost.
I really don’t think I’m being snarky at all either. I am stating my opinion that subject lines can be used intelligently, and if a poster is at all intelligent, then they should be able to figure out the proper way to use them. Maybe it would be a good litmus test on whether you should take the posters comments seriously or not. (That last sentence was snarky, I’ll give you that lol)
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 3, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Is coming on here and making crappy remarks really a discussion? The truth is that there are other fans from other sites that simply come here to be childish. Discussion is fine.
I have no experience in ClaybornSmash making idiotic comments or the like over at OTE (where i spend a hell of a lot more time).
HELP IS ON THE WAY
by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks SBB. I try to be reasonable and understand where other people are coming from when having a discussion. I simply disagree with this policy but will still follow it
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 3, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I definitely was not referring to you Clayborn. I have always enjoyed your insight and discussion. While we disagree at times, that is a discussion. My comments were directed towards the others that come here to whine about rules etc. They have no interest in discussion, only to make their bs comments in a quest to think they’re superior. I apologize for the confusion.
agreed. nit-picky.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I really can’t help but feel that this is the single most arbitrary and esoteric rule I’ve ever seen printed on a message board. Instead of policing content and intent of a message you’re policing text formating? Am I breaking a rule right now? Or is it only if I’m bolding the first line of my entire message. Or can I bold the first line of the “message” section of my post, it’s just the “subject” field that must be left blank?
This leads to another question.
I’ve noticed that the difference between the “subject” field and the “message” field is purely formatting. So how will you determine if someone has bolded the first line of the “message” field or simply used the subject line? And since it seems to me that you cannot make this determination, then it follows that you would be required to make this determination off of text formatting alone, therefore it is not just the subject line that is illegal but the use of bold itself as a first line in any message. So I respectfully rephrase my previous question. Does this post violate the rule?
I know you are being sarcastic and all, but when you joined the blog you agreed to the terms. What is so flipping difficult about that?
First of all, this is nothing personal, I’ve never met an Ohio State fan in person that wasn’t courteous and friendly. I just think these types of rules are silly. I’ll drop it now.
while this is definitely readable (and I’m sure most people did read the terms), I ask you, have you read the terms and conditions on every piece of software you’ve ever agreed to, and everything else you’ve ever had to sign up for?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This isnt software related, and no I don’t read “the fine print”. however, that typically is 3+ pages of small hard to read legal jargon.
When signing up for an SBN site, the rules are right there in front of you, usually not more than a few, sometimes up to 10. It’s not like you have to scroll down 3 pages of legalese. Sheesh.
Which is why I said your terms were readable, but do you also recall off the top of your head all the rules for all the forums you visit (especially if you don’t visit them very frequently)? Sure, you’ll likely remember the general ones like, “don’t be rude, don’t curse, etc.” but something as trivial as “don’t use the subject line” will likely be forgotten by all but your regular readers.
It isn’t an excuse, per se, just like you can’t go into another country and violate their laws and expect to get away with it, but it will happen with many “foreigners”.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at the difference between these two recaps:
The first one, the dialog seems to flow normally, while the second seems disjointed to me. If there are any true titles in those subject lines, I don’t see them … I see a Yes, heh heh, Damn, We ….
Again the content is not bad, it just is visually different and not necessarily in a good way.
the fact that so much time, effort, etc is dedicated to this whole thing is laughable.
at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter.
good day.
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i just find it stupid. i can probably count on one hand the number of times I’ve actually read something here and commented as a result. day one started the laying down of rules(on the internet, mind you). not exactly starting on the right foot.
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
but then when the foreigners try to get all uppity and complain about the rule? They had the opportunity to read the terms and conditions.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I think you misunderstood what I was saying, as I said it wasn’t an excuse, just like when the foreigners are in the other country violate a law. Unfortunately you often have some rather odd local laws that many foreigners can and do violate.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 5, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
there is a difference between terms and conditions for software and that for an SBN site. Each software by law has to say basically the same thing. Essentially, every terms and conditions you read says exactly the same thing. With a user-run blog, that rule does not at all apply.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I have a feeling you don’t actually read the terms and conditions/EULA’s either. Sure, they are usually benign, and quite often say pretty much the same thing, but then there are the times when things along the lines of, “we reserve the right to install a rootkit onto your computer which will allow us to track and take over your computer”
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 5, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And just to be clear, I’m not doing this to troll (well not completely), and I do hope it doesn’t get me banned because this is being posted merely as another potential loophole, if you will, but…
Would posting styles like this be frowned upon?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you not love this guy?…. lol
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Jun 4, 2011 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Not using egregious bold text to inhibit discussion is the heart of the rule. Understand, we do not generally delete posts for subject-line violations, but the influx of trolls and childish site managers has turned the comments section into an unmanageable puddle of filth since Tressel’s resignation.
This is not Penn State’s community; if your site managers like the subject lines, they are free to set the policy to their choosing. They are not free to stop in and troll using the subject line.
The sheer ridiculousness is your greatest opponent. You straight up delete posts and threaten/ban users over something minor like this. It’s your site, so, whatever. You have your quirks, everyone does. No one is committing say, murder, here. Would it, kill people, to use more common sense when posting? Sure. But it’s not like people are walking into your home, stealing from you. People JakeBuckeye showing up and posting things at BSD doesn’t steal from my experience there. I think, if people on both sides just gave this a second chance, we could avoid a lot of this mess. I know I’d really look up to you if you all did.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jun 3, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
mine got deleted for typing
“this is america” in the subject line
and then “yes, i yelled that” in the regular part.
oh well.
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
In the thread where I ask you to not use the subject line, you then use it, touting some misguided notion of free speech. If you’re incapable of understanding why it was deleted, you really are better off at Inside the Shoe.
I agree. If someone who is charged with moderating tells you please to refrain from doing something and you do it anyways, you have no reason to complain.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
also, everybody does it. posts subject lines on other blogs, posts subject lines on this blog.
HELP IS ON THE WAY
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
SBB, you are my new favorite OSU fan. Araziphale needs to step up his game.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
i just happen to not take myself too seriously
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Araziphale is an asshole’s name. I’m going to knock out some of his or her teeth.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
Possibly. Sometimes jumping off of bridges is really fun, so it depends on how high the bridge is, and how shallow the water beneath.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Cliff diving is great. I loved doing that down at Table Rock Lake when I was on a fishing trip during school
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 3, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If everyone sold their Gold Pants and Big10 championship rings to get a discount on tattoos, would you?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Jun 3, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
so subject lines don’t clutter threads because everyone does them? i love your logic SBB…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
subject lines don’t clutter the threads because they actually provide a way to collapse posts that are too large, have pictures or you would otherwise like to hide. Some posters have a habit of not resizing images which for people with mobile devices or bad internet connections can lead to problems loading the page. Also for people using a mobile device it provides a way to ‘mark as read’ by collapsing the post when the new posts aren’t highlighted. I understand that some posters have a disjointed way of using them that disrupt the flow of the conversation but I don’t see how an organizational tool could be seen as “cluttering” the thread.
This site is part of the SBN network and many of the best blogs on SBN have an opposite policy where there is a rule to always use the subject lines. Many of the visiting posters belong to many of the SBN sites, I for example have joined around 40, and can’t always keep the different policies straight for all of them. I think such a strict ban is an overly heavy handed approach and that a better approach would be to have a rule governing the intelligent use of subject lines rather than deleting any post that uses it. I get that the rules are stated when you join and everyone should follow the rules they agreed to but calling any post that uses the subject line “clutter” and deleting it is more “drive-by moderating” than the posts themselves encouraging “drive-by” reading or commentary. It all seems a little draconian and contradictory to me.
by CMoney87 on Jun 5, 2011 4:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
What is stealing is going on another’s site, taking a snippet someone posted and then making snide comments. That is what you find at BSD! You have zero intent to have any meaningful debate, just ridicule and smarmy answers.
That is what you find at BSD! You have zero intent to have any meaningful debate, just ridicule and smarmy answers.
Oh no, we try. But then Rambler brings up the Civil war, or Paige posts, and things just get out of control. It’s called a community. You should try it some time.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I know that you took a snippet of mine and put it in the story. It wasn’t in the comment section, it was in the story! I do KNOW this.
Are you new to the internet?
Quoting other people’s posts to single out what you are responding to is kind of a well established thing.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Kind of a lazy childish way. Once again, taking a small part of a comment and using it as fodder to ridicule. My comment was NOT put in it’s entirety, just a snippet followed by snide remarks. Taking a small part is not a true indication of the point. The only reason i saw it was by accident thinking it was a real article. That is how you must get your sense of superiority.
What are you talking about? What snippet taken from what article? Do you think you came up with the “everybody does” quote? Because that was Pryor. I’m really just honestly confused here.
Or is he accusing mvrck for something one of the managers/editors/writers at BSD wrote? Was it main page, or was it a comment? If it was main page, did they at least link and cite?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
did he at least reference what you said?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
In a very “look at what he said” kinda way. I had no idea that my words were going to be used and no way to defend/explain them. Very high school to me.
no way to defend/explain them
Well, except you could have responded in the comments to clarify/defend/explain them. And not to be mean, but copying/replying/commenting on what other people say on the internet is sorta what happens. I think it is mgoblog where they specifically go and find ridiculous comments from certain fanbases to post.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 5, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t even know until later. Hard to respond when i had no idea it was even there. If that is common amongst these sites, doesn’t mean it’s any less of a cheap shot in my book. Ripping from a national article what a journalist writes i can understand. Ripping from a fat dude from Ohio, not so much.
If you’re not happy with the rules you agreed to when you signed up here, you are free to stop commenting at any time.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Jun 3, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
and most of us probably will. I don’t know about the others, but I held back, and bit my tongue from commenting about the whole Tressel situation. I figured there was nothing I could say over here that wouldn’t be considered trolling, and I wanted to respect your guys’ rights to discuss the situation in peace. I would hope the same could be said of your fans were my team going through a similar turmoil.
But this whole rule about no subject lines? That, my friends, is too far! (then again, I’m also the same person who has yet to turn in his final PhD dissertation because I can’t be bothered to care enough about nitpicky formatting issues)
I honestly don’t read this site regularly, so I was unaware about how seriously they took themselves, and just had to laugh when I saw the post about the rules. Cultural difference, I suppose, as most of my regular reads have a sense of humor about themselves, and while they probably don’t necessarily like dissent, the only time banning occurs seems to be when someone really goes over the line with something (though I know after certain “scandals” erupt at Penn State, Mike has had a quick banhammer for day old accounts posting inflammatory comments).
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
in communist russia, blog comments on you.
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You are kind of on fire today… Nice
"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable
by ClaybornSmash on Jun 3, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s just laughable. but hey, if you don’t like it i’m sure (insert blog name) would love to have you and you belong there because you are obviously not a learned person
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by SouthBayBuckeye on Jun 3, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
and most of us probably will.
You won’t be missed.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Jun 3, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are exactly the kind of person I would expect to get upset over subject lines, as well.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone is upset over subject lines. It was a rule we requested people follow when we began the site, but we never warned anyone over it until this week, when roughly 80 members from other fanbases joined our community, many of them trolling and using the subject line to drop quick barbs and bait Ohio State fans.
We’ve never banned an individual just for using the subject line- that would indeed be silly and shallow. As tends to happen, though, the subject line is often combined with other, more serious rules like trolling and swearing, and that is why some were banned this week.
Upset is too strong a word, but I do find subject lines annoying. The trolling is worse, but it’s all dealt with eventually.
Tyler and Ross are free to run this blog the way they want to, as a participant I choose not use subject lines.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
But the other rules are OK to break?
Respect differences in opinion- Avoid personal attacks. If you must, disagree vehemently, but do it respectfully. Use your intelligence to build a case for your position instead of your anger.
Perhaps I’m mistaken in the definition of a personal attack, but “you won’t be missed” (while not something that will keep me up late at night crying) seems to fall under that category. Or maybe it is just “Avoid personal attacks, unless it is someone coming in with different views, especially if they are from a different fanbase?”
biggy84 also seems to single me out above for some reason, and while I will admit I am being a bit contrarian on here and pointing out some of the issues (and possible loopholes) of the “no subject line” rule in what I consider to be a harmless, amusing way, I don’t think that makes my points less valid. (for what it is worth, I have no idea what biggy is ranting about. He seems to be upset when people quote him? I don’t even think mvrk was quoting him, but instead making a thinly veiled mock of Pryor’s “everybody does” comment).
If you will notice, though, I have not broken a single rule of this site (and if I have, I am sorry about it. The closest would be a mild-form of trolling, but even then I’m not actually trolling, I’m just an outsider presenting a different opinion). I’ve only voiced the humor I find in the rule of the subject line, but I’ve also followed that rule.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I won’t miss your and others’ “mild-form” trolling on this site, as you said you’d stop commenting. Perhaps I worded it poorly before, but you seem to not have taken any offense from it, for obvious reasons. It was my understanding that “Avoid personal attacks” referred to attacking you as a person, in a much more extreme manner than my previous comment.
I get that the manager from another blog inexplicitly asked the readers like yourself to troll this site. Perhaps I was too quickly to group you with them, as it seemed a lot trolling various threads. If you want to offer an opposing fan’s opinion, I’m perfectly fine with that.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
You are not here for discussion. You have voiced your opinion many, many times. We get it, you disagree.
I am discussing the rule of subject line usage. I don’t see a single post by you on this page related to the discussion other than to complain about others coming here to either discuss or complain. I know you are the OSU fan and I am the outsider, so it probably appears to everyone here like I’m the “troll” and you are not, but if the user names/team affiliations were reversed for all of our comments, then I would bet the perception would be reversed as well.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s just this simple: you voiced your opinion of the rule, you mocked the rule, you stated many times that other blog site’s do this and that, point taken. It is very, very simple, if you don’t like them, then don’t post here.
and I have yet to see you actually comment about what this discussion is about, except to complain about people with a different opinion than yours. At least my comments have mostly been on point.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 5, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Your sole purpose was to come on this site and test the rules. I saw where you and your buddies were talking about it at your site. You had/have zero intention to discuss anything. How many times can you say the same thing? Is that a discussion? I clearly stated my opinion on the rules. Run back to your buddies and talk about how you came back over here.
He’s (Nitt) conveniently ignoring the fact that the manager of the Penn State blog he frequents essentially asked his readers and staff to troll this site.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
This is getting kind of stupid, so here are some unsolicited suggestions.
People who came here just to troll: come on, don’t be a dick. You wouldn’t like it if I pooped on your front porch, don’t poop on ours. It’s not like you’re being asked to avoid the letter ‘e’. If the managers ask you not to use the subject line, don’t use the subject line.
Tyler: please be patient. Even if the undesirables are trolling unprovoked, having a short leash only makes the trolling problem worse. If you grant clemency to whoever got banned today and ask them not to troll again, maybe you’ll even get a few more followers.
All parties: don’t be a dick. That was the first rule of the lsat board I was heavily involved with, and it worked out pretty well. Hopefully it can work out here.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
by Semicorrect on Jun 3, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Now a follow-up with when subject lines are defensible:
When you’ve got a huge picture or gif. (Click the subject line to collapse this post)
Obviously, some pictures and gifs are annoying or distracting or disruptive, and take up lots of bandwidth. Adding a subject line to those pictures and gifs lets you minimize the post, which lets readers keep on going with little distraction. I don’t have a problem with subject lines at all, but since you want to enforce them, I’ll follow that rule excepting with pictures and gifs.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
by Semicorrect on Jun 3, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That bad guy from Titanic. Also, me, I think. One must be very careful not to present bigoted undertones.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
Really? youve actually used the term in a real life situation?
by justsomehawkeyefan on Jun 3, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No Subject (per request of the moderators)
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
Now you know EXACTLY how fans of LOST feel.
by Skins3Ever on Jun 4, 2011 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It’s your blog, and they’re your rules, I get that. But it seems that if you’d loosen up on the subject line rule, you’d drive more traffic to the site, which is the goal, along with providing good content.
You guys have the latter part down, but what good does it do if no one reads it or comments on it? I don’t come here as often as I should, and I rarely post, because for whatever reason, the subject line is a big deal to me. Don’t ask me why, it just is, like it is for a vast majority of people that post on SB blogs. Maybe it’s a ‘change is bad’ thing, I don’t know.
But that’s just me.
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