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- Vacation of wins from 2010 season.
- Program placed on probation for two seasons.
- No bowl ban.
- No lost scholarships.
- One more player received tattoo benefits and has been declared ineligible. Ohio State has requested that he be reinstated by the NCAA.

It also includes an admission that the university asked Tressel to resign, an obvious conclusion that is now official.

11 months ago Jim-tressel-ohio-state_tiny Tyler T. 8 comments 0 recs  | 

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Not much of a first offer. I beginning to wonder how seriously the atheltic department is taking this.

by joejoekl on Jul 8, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Well the charges levied against them didn't warrant much else.

Vacating the 2010 season is a pretty serious thing. It was Tressel who fell on his sword for lying to the NCAA, not the university. There was no lack of institutional control. What would you have added? A self imposed bowl ban?

I try to limit my schadenfreude when it comes to NCAA politics but I do think it’s a good thing that the full extent of Oregon’s violations have come to light right before tOSU’s punishment will be handed down. I think Oregon’s violations are more serious and I think, rather I hope, that it puts things in perspective for the NCAA.

I don’t wish for the University and Athletics Department to escape unpunished, but I do want the punishment to fit the crime.

by Cry on Jul 8, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if the NCAA takes into account what we’ve actually lost as a result of all this: one of the best players in college football, one of the best coaches/recruiters of a generation, and a 5 game suspension for our starting LT, WR, and RB, it amounts to a substantial punishment. I’m just not sure how they will account for those things when considering their own punishment, and to that extent, offering to vacate wins does not seem genuine. I picture Gene Smith making a “jerking off” hand motion if this is all they levy against us. Vacating wins won’t change anything, and it doesn’t seem to me like an effective deterrent. It doesn’t put OSU in any different of a position than they were before, so why do it?

Part of it, I guess, is my feeling that it would cheapen the entire affair for the NCAA to claim that after firing tressel, kicking TP out, and suspending our best offensive players, what they really wanted us to do was vacate the season. I want to believe that institutional enforcement of the rules, at least to the NCAA, doesn’t take such an obvious second to making money, past and future off of such a big program. Otherwise, the system has even less legitimacy than it did before, thus doing nothing to deter future violations, and some may argue, even serving to eoncourage them.

by joejoekl on Jul 8, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

OSU has a legal team that specializes in these cases. Their legal team also used to be employed by the NCAA themselves. People are forgeting that OSU didn’t come up with their punishment by drawing straws. The general public (especially those from other fanbases) seems to think that OSU blindly threw feces on the wall hoping it will stick. The legal team was hired for their expertise and were not found in the local Thrifty Nickel.

by biggy84 on Jul 8, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

right, remember how great of a job they did when all this came out? we should certainly trust them

by joejoekl on Jul 9, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will be interesting to see what UT gets as a result of the Bruce Pearl dishonesty. Kelvin Sampson was much worse at IU, and their basketball program got probation and the loss of ONE scholarship. Without LOIC or FTM, why would OSU propose more?

Maybe we lose 5 scholarships from the 2012 class because of the repeat-offender tag, but uncovering only 1 more player and nothing else should be a good thing.

by natefuller on Jul 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

More importantly, Tenn is facing punishment for two sports. OSU’s response clearly states that this was a football only problem. The majority of people also forget that USC was punished for three sports.

by biggy84 on Jul 8, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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